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August 22, 2008

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Bigtwenty

Yes, this is such a great list for people who take their music career seriously. Great job David!!!

Darrell

The "band thing" is something I've been doing since High School (over 20 years)and it's always the same story. One person is the focus to get shows, organize events and rehearsals. The others either have their own things they are doing or simply ride the wave of whatever activity the one person comes up with. The problem is in how each person defines being committed to the group. I am now looking for other musicians who would do music well even if they're not being paid. Everyone has a right to compensation for their art, but a true love of music writing/performance/marketing etc. is what allows bands to become successful. Anything less is simply a waste of time. Hire musicians to get your shows done and your tracks as well. Whether you're an awesome musician or not, don't tie yourself to ANY situation that is holding you back. Only 5% of musicians you meet are going to be equal go-getters to move things forward, so the chance of having an entire band of individuals contributing equally is pretty slim.

Andreas

I wont say how many of these 10 signs corresponds with my situation but i can give you a hint... More than 5.

So what to do?

Mike Lattanz

To thy own self be true ..If deep down you have the feeling to move on from your current situation buy all means you should follow it. I spent 8 years in a band working very hard and when it came time for the record deal the lead singer bailed out of the deal .I was left speachless (all that time all the lies blood sweat and tears) for that moment I'll never forget.
Then I read Steve Jordan left SNL because he did'nt like the music that Paul Shaefer wanted to play each night , Steve went on to produce many great artists over the years the latest Jon Mayer.
Mike

Sebastiano Mereu

Band break-ups hurt a lot. They hurt as much as breaking up with a girl- or boyfriend. I've been through ugly break-ups and thinking back, it still hurts. Especially if you had to stop playing with your closest friends. Fortunately, with every story that finishes a new one starts. And, even though starting over might be hard on your knees, it can be more rewarding in the end. You can learn from mistakes you or others have made and create something greater than what you had before.

Atul Rana

Ain't it fun.......when you've broken up every band you've begun

Ain't if fun.......when you know you gonna die young

Ain't it fun, ain't it fun

David Jacoby

Hey this is a great list. I remember I was actually "kicked out" of my band many years ago. The funny thing is, about two hours after I had gotten over all the self-pity, I realized that it was EXACTLY what I needed, and what I would have decided myself, if I had just seen this list! I was just blindly committed to this project that had basically lost all its soul and creative energy about two years earlier. So "quitting" my band was the best thing I ever did.

drew b

Nice quote from the dead boys Atul!!

Anyway, I'm older, been through a lot of bands, being a driver and a passenger. I usually end up doing some driving eventually, as I really love the creativity, performance, AND the business. I've had all varieties of the 10 points in different degrees. My current band has quite a few of them, but you have to weigh who you are against who you want to be, who your mates are against who they can be. The biggest enemy out there is self-deception. Yours and your mate's. Don't kid yourself about the people around you. If they really want to 'go somewhere' with their music, they'll be showing definite signs (one of those signs is being an optimistic, helpful, FOLLOWER). If not, either deal with pulling them along, or bail. But the tricky one is: is music business what YOU want? Have you seen yourself on video? Are you a creep? Yeah, you feel darn good when you're playing, but do people avoid you? Are you making up reasons that you're a star in your head? Can you live with yourself if you find out it's been a lie for all these years? Tough questions - actually, great songwriting material. These are questions any man asks, not just musicians. Heft a pint and plow on, if you've got the stomach for it. Best of luck!

Lou Lombardi

After years of being in bands and exhibiting all of these "sypmtoms" in one situation or another I finally grew a set and started my own band. This is better for me. Although I still play in another (80's cover) band. In the other band I feel like a slave. In my band it's very different. I get to treat others the way that I want to be treated. I think you have to pay people. It isn't easy to do but if you're paying then it's a job ...more of a professional atmosphere, and you can expect, or should expect more professional behavior and attitudes from those involved. Even if we are showcasing, and there is no pay...I pay my guys.

Alisha

agreed! good list

Paula Benson

I quit being apart of a female group because the other two ladies were always always late. Also, they just wanted the glory and not the work that came with being talented entertainer. Both ladies smoke pot and that was not my thing. I found out later there was some jealousy toward me. At the time both ladies could sing cirles around me so, the jealousy thing I did not understand. I was having a problem believe I could sing.

I feel being the leader of a band is best for me. It's a lot of hard work and you have to be organized to get things done. I would not trade the position any day for late-pot smoking singers.

kawaii

This is great list..one of the reason also is the insecurities and jealousy,aneweis, thanks for sharing this..

Paula Benson

I love that magazine. If it was not for Performer I would not have met my new co-writter. I am glad I kept those old issues I have. I've been helped in so many ways.

As the comments mention above in David's 10 steps it is best to shut it down.

bones

I hate it when bands suddenly take their music TOO SERIOUSLY. Control freaks are AWFUL to deal with!

Social Bandmaker

The biggest reason why bands dont succeed or last is because there is a lack of authority, roles and direction in the band. They all need a plan!

David Hooper

Great point. Most bands that have had big success and have been around for a long time are driven by one or two people. Kiss, Nine Inch Nails, or Smashing Pumpkins for example... The other "members" of the organization are just hired guns.

d

11. Quit the band if there is a member who takes it so seriously that he types up a blog list of potential reasons to quit the band. These people are annoying, usually have a beard, glasses and were at one point a vegetarian/ most likely the bassist and are not that good at music to begin with

Kraig Dean Roberts

After my last band broke up in 1997 I said to myself "That's it, I'm never going to be in a band again". Like the 10 reasons mentioned, we had released a professional five-song demo on tape, did the release party and then the vocalist quit. He was a huge talent but his neurosis overuled logic, his own list of reasons for quitting contained unrealistic expectations. So I put a pretty decent home studio together, complete with acoustical wall treatments. I had a plan, a specific set of goals and now would follow my true hard rock / metal calling. Having a well-defined style was important but I managed to write every song with a slightly different twist and no two songs sounded exactly alike, but you knew it was Deadly Nightshade (my "band" name, like Nine Inch Nails)and yet there were always surprises. It took a LONG time to learn how to record and produce songs mostly as I was doing EVERYTHING, even the instruments and vocals were all me. I was super-inspired and a prolific songwriter. I really wanted nothing to do with a band however, I figured I would be able to sell my music either in stores or on-line. I got offers to sign up with so-called music sites everyday, promising radio rotation and promoting on the site. Another forum's feedback seemed to indicate I was dreaming; "Gotta put a band together and play in support of the CD. Re-record with a real band BTW" I found a bass player and drummer who, get this, INSISTED on learning my songs per diem. I mean, bass player loved my bass parts, just needed tab, same with drummer, but no tab for drums. Yes, it all started off great. But I sold my studio gear, did some truly idiotic things that messed up my finances. I had, at one point, some high-end rehearsal PA stuff, mics etc. Forming your own band requires you to show that YOU ARE A LEADER, A PROFESSIONAL TALENT with a plan. My first band ever in 79 had better gear!!! It began to weigh me down, and I had no day job. What business did I have doing this? And we had practice issues with drummer. The disease had set in. I had more material beyond the hour we played at gigs but I was losing my passion and I missed the "analog" days of making a tape with songs for each member to learn songs off. We had yet to gain ANY following. I fell apart. Band is done, I have my guitar rig and Boss drum / bass machine but no studio now. I was losing it in the head. What had I done? I settled down and worked things out: get a job, get your studio back. Return to the song writer mode, finish new CD and get it mastered. Having product will make all the difference.

I may be 50-years-young now but things have changed. Business has changed. Its not
1982. I've got to redirect my talent and sell ME, not some unstable band situation. I really don't enjoy playing live, the cluh scene was never my scene unless I had plenty of drugs, then I was Mr. Charisma-rock star, talking to everyone in the club. These days I just want to get the hell out of there and go home but I put on a brave face and act the part very well. Its not a good thing however, its my alter-ego, not the real me. Question is, can I sell just ME, my music and never play out again?

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